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İnsanlığına, dikkatine minnettarım, dürüstlüğü onu sakinleştirdi ve aynı zamanda ayılttı.\nİş yüküne rağmen profesyonellik ve insanlığın uyumunu korumayı başarıyor.\nBu, tüm bu yıllar boyunca kelimenin tam anlamıyla en zor hastaları ayağa kaldıran ve RNPC'DE çalışan bir doktordur. Ülkemiz ve özellikle travmatoloji ve Ortopedi RNPC'LERİ, kurumda bu kadar üst düzey bir doktorun çalıştığı için çok şanslıydı.\nAyrıca yetkin, sakin ve kendinden emin bir anestezist- yoğun bakım uzmanı- Sochilovich Yuri Alexandrovich'i de vurgulamak istiyorum. Onun sayesinde, diğer şeylerin yanı sıra, operasyonel tedavisi için iyimserdi. Operasyonla ilgili tüm nüanslar ve detaylar açıklığa kavuşturuldu - deneyimlerim tamamen sakinleştirildi.\nBu yaklaşımın bir sonucu olarak, her şey yolunda gitti.\nTabii ki, bu tür okuryazar ve insan doktorlara bakılmalı ve takdir edilmelidir!\nAllah onlara sağlık, sabır ve güç versin!\n\nMutlu Hastadan büyük bir minnettarlıkla!","EN":"At the RNPC of Traumatology and Orthopedics, I was lucky enough to meet the genius of traumatology - Alexander Eduardovich Murzich. This is a doctor who really has the highest level of intellectual and mental development. I am very grateful to Alexander Eduardovich for his competent and balanced approach in my difficult situation. I am grateful for his humanity, for his attention, his honesty calmed and at the same time sobered.\nDespite the workload, he manages to maintain the harmony of professionalism and humanity.\nThis is a doctor who literally puts the hardest patients on their feet all these years that he has been working at the RNPC. 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Слова благодарности постовым медсёстрам и всему младшему мед.персоналу и санитаркам.Дай Вам Бог здоровья, благополучия и благодарных пациентов в Новом годе 2025.С уважением пациентка г.Солигорска Бабак Н.С.","fullText":"","textLanguage":"RU","textTranslations":{"TR":"Yeni Yılınız kutlu olsun! 10.12-23.12.24 döneminde RNPC'DE hastaneye yatıyordum ve yardımcı doktorum Malashenko Andrei Vladimirovich'e altın elleri ve kalbi olan beyin cerrahına minnettarlığımı, sempatik, özenli bir insan olarak ifade etmek istiyorum ve ayrıca büyüleyici anestezi uzmanı Romankevich Marina Alexandrovna'ya dikkatinden dolayı teşekkür etmek istiyorum. hastalarına karşı duyarlılık. Oruç hemşirelerine ve tüm gençlere teşekkür sözleri tatlım.personele ve sağlık görevlilerine.Tanrı, 2025 Yeni Yılında size sağlık, esenlik ve minnettar hastalar versin.Saygılarımla, Soligorsk'un hastası Babak N.S.","EN":"Happy New Year! During the period 10-12.23.12.24, I was hospitalized at the Russian Orthodox Church and I want to express my gratitude to my attending physician, Andrei Vladimirovich Malashenko, a neurosurgeon with golden hands and a heart, as a responsive, attentive person, and I also want to thank Marina Alexandrovna Romankevich, a charming anesthesiologist, for her attention and sensitivity to her patients. Words of gratitude to the nurses on duty and to the entire junior medical staff.staff and nurses.May God grant you health, well-being and grateful patients in the New Year 2025.Sincerely, Soligorsk patient Babak N.S."}},{"id":"1mxu-1HDaS4FQemwrYC6a_dxM4ZvHGz","object":{"id":"/sprav/1034434837"},"author":{"name":"ViKK Nogo","avatarId":"59871/0f-4","url":"//reviews.yandex.ru/user/hvmu45wn78djmza9dre5167mdr?utm_source=org&main_tab=org","level":"Знаток города 3 уровня","verified":false,"linkTheme":"black","scoreQuestion":"","publicId":"hvmu45wn78djmza9dre5167mdr","reviewsCount":2},"rating":{"newDesign":true,"max":5,"val":1},"photos":[],"moderated":true,"time":"28 мая","text":"Сделаете операцию в этом заведении — а что будет дальше?!\n\nОтзыв на врачей: Самусев А.Е., Воронович А.И., Талако Т.Е.\n\nРанее операции по замене тазобедренного сустава проводились только в РНПЦ травматологии и ортопедии (г. Минск, ул. Кижеватова 60/4). При повторном обращении был выявлен износ установленной ранее \"ножки\" и \"прокладки\". Анализы в норме, температуры нет, противопоказаний нет. Протезы были в наличии. Операция была назначена на первую и ближайшую свободную дату! Со слов врача: \"Операцию нужно было делать еще вчера\". Пациент находился в отделении на 3-м этаже две недели.\n\nЗа пару дней до операции лечащий врач Самусев А.Е. отказал в её проведении, выдав заключение о том, что «операция не требуется », и выписал пациента. Обращения в вышестоящие инстанции не дали результата: по-видимому, запросы были возвращены обратно тем же врачам. Решение было поддержано Воронович А.И. и Талако Т.Е., которые вместе с Самусевым А.Е. провели «консилиум» и отказали в операции, выдав направление «обратиться через год для консультации».\n\nПри этом данные врачи настаивали на том, что операция не срочная — несмотря на тяжесть состояния и ухудшающийся прогноз. Они знали, что отказ повлечёт необходимость менять и \"чашку\" тазобедренного сустава, которая на тот момент была установлена идеально и в замене не нуждалась. Их решение привело к значительному усложнению операции, повышению рисков и кровопотери. Более того, они знали, что такие сложные вмешательства без замены \"чашки\" другие клиники проводить не смогут.\n\nИх отказ сделал поиск альтернатив почти невозможным. Местные травматологи были в шоке. Бывшие коллеги из РНПЦ, работающие в частных центрах Минска, сочувствовали, но не могли вмешаться. Врачи 6-й больницы г. Минска откровенно не понимали, как вообще мог быть дан такой отказ.\n\nПосле отказа Самусева А.Е. было направлено 34 обращения в ортопедические клиники по всему миру. В 30 из них врачи отказались из-за сложности случая. Большинство подтвердило: операция нужна срочно. Более того, многие настаивали, что оперировать нужно именно в РНПЦ — чтобы не менять \"чашку\" и минимизировать риски. Три клиники согласились, но не дали гарантии. Только одна клиника согласилась помочь.\n\nЧерез три дня после «консилиума» Самусева А.Е., Вороновича А.И. и Талако Т.Е., которые утверждали, что показаний нет, операция была проведена в другой стране. Где как ни странно врачи понимали ситуацию и риски!\n\nОгромная команда врачей. Операция длилась более 5 часов. Полностью заменён тазобедренный сустав, включая \"чашку\". Врач, проводивший операцию, сам определил экстренность и назначил дату.\n\nПосле операции врач сказал:\n«Бедро всё развалилось в труху. Металл от протеза попал в кость, костная ткань начала разрушаться. Половина бедра была изъедена».\n\nУгроза инвалидности была реальной. Последствия могли быть фатальными. Если бы операция не была проведена срочно, существовала высокая вероятность перелома бедра и быстрой кровопотери — в ситуации, где никакой врач уже бы не смог помочь, даже если бы стоял рядом.\n\nСамусев А.Е., Воронович А.И., Талако Т.Е. — «ПОКАЗАНИЙ НЕТ».\n\nВыводы каждый сделает сам.","fullText":"","textLanguage":"RU","textTranslations":{"TR":"Bu kurumda ameliyat yapacaksınız - sonra ne olacak?!\n\nDoktorlara geri bildirim: Samusev A.E., Voronovich A.I., Talako Yani.\n\nDaha önce kalça protezi ameliyatları sadece travmatoloji ve ortopedi RNPC'SİNDE yapıldı (Minsk, Kizhevatova Caddesi 60/4). Yeniden kullanım sırasında, daha önce takılmış olan \"bacak\" ve \"contanın\" aşınması tespit edildi. Testler normal, sıcaklık yok, kontrendikasyon yok. Protezler mevcuttu. Operasyon ilk ve en yakın boş tarihte planlandı! Doktora göre: \"Ameliyatın dün yapılması gerekiyordu.\" Hasta iki hafta boyunca 3. kattaki koğuştaydı.\n\nAmeliyattan birkaç gün önce, katılan doktor Samusev A.E. bunu yapmayı reddetti, «ameliyata gerek olmadığı» sonucuna vardı ve hastayı taburcu etti. Daha yüksek makamlara yapılan başvurular sonuç vermedi: görünüşe göre talepler aynı doktorlara iade edildi. Karar, Samusev A.E. ile birlikte bir «konsültasyon» düzenleyen ve operasyonu reddederek «bir yıl sonra danışmak için başvurma\" yönünü veren Voronovich A.I. ve Talako T.E. tarafından desteklendi.\n\nAynı zamanda, bu doktorlar, durumun ciddiyetine ve kötüleşen prognoza rağmen, operasyonun acil olmadığı konusunda ısrar ettiler. Reddetmenin, o sırada mükemmel bir şekilde yerleştirilmiş ve değiştirilmesi gerekmeyen kalça ekleminin \"kabını\" değiştirme ihtiyacını da gerektireceğini biliyorlardı. Kararları, operasyonun önemli ölçüde karmaşıklaşmasına, risklerin ve kan kaybının artmasına neden oldu. Dahası, diğer kliniklerin \"bardağı\" değiştirmeden bu kadar karmaşık müdahaleler yapamayacaklarını biliyorlardı.\n\nReddetmeleri, alternatif aramayı neredeyse imkansız hale getirdi. Yerel travmatologlar şoktaydı. Minsk'in özel merkezlerinde çalışan RNPC'DEN eski meslektaşları sempati duydular, ancak müdahale edemediler. Minsk'teki 6. hastanenin doktorları, böyle bir reddin nasıl verilebileceğini açıkça anlamadılar.\n\nSamusev'in reddetmesinin ardından A.E. dünya çapındaki ortopedi kliniklerine 34 çağrı gönderildi. Bunlardan 30'unda doktorlar davanın karmaşıklığı nedeniyle reddetti. Çoğunluk onayladı: ameliyata acilen ihtiyaç var. Dahası, birçoğu \"bardağı\" değiştirmemek ve riskleri en aza indirmek için RNPC'DE ameliyat edilmesi gerektiğinde ısrar etti. Üç klinik kabul etti, ancak garanti vermedi. Sadece bir klinik yardım etmeyi kabul etti.\n\nSamusev A.E., Voronovich A.I. ve Talako'nun «konsilyumundan» üç gün sonra, ifade olmadığını iddia eden T.E., operasyon başka bir ülkede gerçekleştirildi. Garip bir şekilde doktorların durumu ve riskleri anladıkları yer!\n\nBüyük bir doktor ekibi. Ameliyat 5 saatten fazla sürdü. \"Fincan\" dahil kalça eklemi tamamen değiştirilir. Ameliyatı gerçekleştiren doktor acil durumu kendisi belirledi ve tarihi belirledi.\n\nAmeliyattan sonra doktor şunları söyledi:\n\"Kalçanın hepsi toz haline geldi. Protezden gelen metal kemiğe girdi, kemik dokusu bozulmaya başladı. Kalçanın yarısı yenmişti.»\n\nSakatlık tehdidi gerçekti. Sonuçlar ölümcül olabilir. Ameliyat acilen yapılmamış olsaydı, yakınlarda dursa bile hiçbir doktorun yardım edemeyeceği bir durumda kalça kırığı ve hızlı kan kaybı olasılığı yüksekti.\n\nSamusev A.E., Voronovich A.I., Talako YANİ — \"TANIKLIK YOK\"»\n\nHerkes kendi sonuçlarını çıkaracaktır.","EN":"If you have an operation in this institution, what will happen next?!\n\nReview of doctors: Samusev A.E., Voronovich A.I., Talako T.E.\n\nPreviously, hip replacement surgeries were performed only at the Russian National Research Center of Traumatology and Orthopedics (Minsk, 60/4 Kizhevatov St.). Upon repeated treatment, wear of the previously installed \"foot\" and \"gasket\" was revealed. The tests are normal, there is no fever, there are no contraindications. Prosthetics were available. The operation was scheduled for the first and nearest available date! According to the doctor, \"The operation should have been done yesterday.\" The patient stayed in the department on the 3rd floor for two weeks.\n\nA couple of days before the operation, the attending physician, A.E. Samusev, refused to perform it, issuing a conclusion that \"surgery is not required,\" and discharged the patient. Appeals to higher authorities did not yield results: apparently, the requests were returned back to the same doctors. The decision was supported by Voronovich A.I. and Talako T.E., who, together with Samusev A.E., held a \"consultation\" and refused the operation, issuing a referral \"to apply in a year for consultation.\"\n\nAt the same time, these doctors insisted that the operation was not urgent, despite the severity of the condition and the deteriorating prognosis. They knew that failure would entail the need to change the \"cup\" of the hip joint, which at that time was perfectly installed and did not need to be replaced. Their decision led to a significant complication of the operation, increased risks and blood loss. Moreover, they knew that other clinics would not be able to perform such complex interventions without replacing the \"cup\".\n\nTheir refusal made it almost impossible to find alternatives. The local traumatologists were shocked. Former colleagues from the Russian Orthodox Church working in private centers in Minsk sympathized, but could not intervene. The doctors of the 6th hospital in Minsk frankly did not understand how such a refusal could have been given.\n\nAfter A.E. Samusev's refusal, 34 applications were sent to orthopedic clinics around the world. In 30 of them, doctors refused because of the complexity of the case. The majority confirmed that the operation was needed urgently. Moreover, many insisted that it was necessary to operate at the Russian Orthodox Church in order not to change the \"cup\" and minimize the risks. Three clinics agreed, but did not give a guarantee. Only one clinic agreed to help.\n\nThree days after the \"consultation\" of A.E. Samusev, A.I. Voronovich and T.E. Talako, who claimed that there was no evidence, the operation was carried out in another country. Where, oddly enough, doctors understood the situation and the risks!\n\nA huge team of doctors. The operation lasted more than 5 hours. The hip joint has been completely replaced, including the \"cup\". The doctor who performed the operation himself determined the emergency and set the date.\n\nAfter the operation, the doctor said,\n\"The hip has all fallen apart. The metal from the prosthesis got into the bone, and the bone tissue began to break down. Half of the thigh was eaten away.\"\n\nThe threat of disability was real. The consequences could be fatal. If the operation had not been performed urgently, there was a high probability of a hip fracture and rapid blood loss — in a situation where no doctor would have been able to help, even if he had been standing next to her.\n\nSamusev A.E., Voronovich A.I., Talako T.E. — \"THERE IS NO EVIDENCE.\"\n\nEveryone will draw their own conclusions."}},{"id":"K3MdS4LuU5-RCRHvoZ1l6CfgaYa2Fv","object":{"id":"/sprav/1034434837"},"author":{"name":"Юлия","avatarId":"0/0-0","url":"//reviews.yandex.ru/user/m7qc16p8k90uvbp30ct1j3zuwr?utm_source=org&main_tab=org","level":"Знаток города 4 уровня","verified":false,"linkTheme":"black","scoreQuestion":"","publicId":"m7qc16p8k90uvbp30ct1j3zuwr","reviewsCount":4},"rating":{"newDesign":true,"max":5,"val":1},"photos":[],"comments":[{"object":{"id":"/sprav/1034434837"},"time":1741094973790,"type":"/ugc/comment","meta":{"blocked":false,"moderated":true},"text":"Добрый день. Спасибо, что нашли время и поделились своими впечатлениями о нашем Центре. Мы обязательно внимательно изучим этот инцидент и примем соответствующие меры.","id":"RzgyTFpT78olOJYaZVzl4zHoY8UxzAf"}],"moderated":true,"time":"2 марта","text":"Записалась в РНЦП ортопедии с большим трудом и только приехав лично в регистратуру. По телефону дозвониться в день записи просто нереально. Возлагала на центр большие надежды из-за большого спроса. Уже два года страдала болями в коленях. Травмы как таковой не было, при резком движении послышался хруст, дальше появилась боль в правом колене, левое заболело аналогично через год. \nНа прием я попала к Талако Евгению Леонтьевичу- неграмотному специалисту, который не уважает своих пациентов.\nНа приеме Талако Евгений Леонтьевич как только увидел количество исследований (а их накопилось не мало, к сожалению, найти хорошего специалиста оказалось сложно-диагноза не было) с насмешкой выдал: «Вы бы еще в Москву съездили». После осмотра сказал, что никаких серьезных повреждений колена не видит. На левое колено он вообще внимания не обращал т к оно болело меньше. Специфические жалобы, на то, что болит в основном при ходьбе и внутри что-то зажимает, Талако Е.Л. не реагировал. После сказал, что я просто зациклилась на боли, которой и не должно быть. И лучше бы замуж вышла, тогда все пройдет. Такого непрофессионализма и хамства я не ожидала. А то, что я девушка 26 лет не могла пройти без боли пару километров, это мои фантазии? Из рекомендаций он назначил ходить с тростью (при болях в 2-х коленях как бы она помогла???) и желательно вообще не двигаться и не ходить полгода-полный покой, что очень вредно для суставов. Это плохие советы врача с 23-х летним стажем и списком научных публикаций, но большим самомнением.\nК слову, диагноз он мне так и не поставил. \nПозже, другой специалист, в другой клинике поставил диагноз: синдром медиапателярной складки с обеих сторон. Лечится операцией.","fullText":"","textLanguage":"RU","textTranslations":{"TR":"Ortopedi Devlet Hastanesi'ne büyük zorluklarla kaydoldum ve ancak şahsen kayıt ofisine vardım. Kayıt gününde telefonla aramak gerçekçi değildir. Yoğun talep nedeniyle merkezden büyük umutlarım vardı. İki yıldır dizlerinde ağrı çekiyordu. Böyle bir yaralanma olmadı, ani bir hareketle bir çatırtı duyuldu, sonra sağ dizde ağrı ortaya çıktı, sol bir yıl sonra benzer şekilde hastalandı. \nRandevuma, hastalarına saygı duymayan okuma yazma bilmeyen bir uzman olan Talako Yevgeny Leontievich'e gittim.\nTalako'nun resepsiyonunda, Yevgeny Leontievich araştırma sayısını görür görmez (ancak çok az birikmedi, ne yazık ki iyi bir uzman bulmanın zor olduğu ortaya çıktı - teşhis yoktu) alay konusu oldu: «Moskova'ya daha giderdiniz». Muayeneden sonra dizinde ciddi bir yaralanma görmediğini söyledi. Sol dizine hiç dikkat etmedi, çünkü daha az ağrıyordu. Talako E.L., esas olarak yürürken acıttığı ve içeride bir şeyi sıkıştırdığı gerçeğine ilişkin özel şikayetler yanıt vermedi. Ondan sonra, olmamam gereken acıya takılıp kaldığımı söyledim. Evlensen iyi olur, o zaman her şey geçer. Böyle bir profesyonellik ve kabalık beklemiyordum. Ve 26 yaşında bir kızım acı çekmeden birkaç kilometre yürüyemediğim gerçeği benim fantezilerim mi? Tavsiyelerden bastonla yürümeyi önerdi (2 dizindeki ağrı için nasıl yardımcı olur???) ve altı ay boyunca hiç hareket etmemesi veya yürümemesi tavsiye edilir - eklemler için çok zararlı olan tam bir huzur. Bunlar, 23 yıllık deneyime ve bilimsel yayınların listesine sahip bir doktorun kötü tavsiyeleridir, ancak büyük bir kibirlidir.\nBu arada, bana hiç teşhis koymadı. \nDaha sonra, başka bir klinikte başka bir uzman, her iki tarafta medya paterni sendromu teşhisi koydu. Ameliyatla tedavi edilir.","EN":"I signed up for the Russian National Research Center of Orthopedics with great difficulty and only arrived at the registry office in person. It is simply impossible to reach by phone on the day of recording. I had high hopes for the center because of the high demand. I've been suffering from knee pain for two years now. There was no injury as such, a crunch was heard with a sudden movement, then pain appeared in the right knee, the left knee got sick the same way a year later. \nI got an appointment with Talako Evgeny Leontievich, an illiterate specialist who does not respect his patients.\nAt the reception, Talako Evgeny Leontievich, as soon as he saw the number of studies (and there were quite a few, unfortunately, it was difficult to find a good specialist - there was no diagnosis), mockingly gave out: \"You should also go to Moscow.\" After the examination, he said that he did not see any serious knee injuries. He didn't pay any attention to his left knee because it hurt less. Specific complaints that it hurts mainly when walking and something is pinching inside, Talako E.L. did not react. Then he said I was just fixated on the pain, which shouldn't be there. And it would be better to get married, then everything will pass. I did not expect such unprofessionalism and rudeness. And the fact that I was a 26-year-old girl who couldn't walk a couple of kilometers without pain, is this my fantasy? From the recommendations, he prescribed walking with a cane (with pain in 2 knees, how would it help???) and it is advisable not to move or walk at all for six months-complete rest, which is very harmful to the joints. These are bad advice from a doctor with 23 years of experience and a list of scientific publications, but with a lot of self-conceit.\nBy the way, he never diagnosed me. \nLater, another specialist at another clinic diagnosed the syndrome of the mediapatelic fold on both sides. 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