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Этот же вопрос обсуждала с заведующим 4 детской поликлиники Светланой Николаевной, и его же задала главному врачу МРЭКа Анне Михайловне, выслушав, она уточнила сроки рассмотрения МРЭКом (до 30 дней), предложила написать заявление на досрочное переосвидетельствование и так же, как и другие, не смогла мне ответить на мой интересующий меня вопрос: \n\"В каком же статусе находится мой ребёнок-инвалид пока мы ждём переосвидетельствования во МРЭК?\" В статусе здорового человека? \nПо причине предстоящей операции в онкологическом центре, которая планировалась на конец сентября/ начало октября, мы не можем переносить МРЭК на досрочное рассмотрение, об этом я всех информировала, и пока искала ответ на интересующий меня вопрос, инвалидное удостоверение 1 октября закончилось, где столкнулись сразу с рядом проблем:\nВо-первых, в связи с новыми проблемами со здоровьем ребёнка мы решили перейти на домашнее обучение. В поликлинике 28 августа 2024 года взяли справочку с ВКК, что она нуждается в обучении на дому, но меня расстроило, что справку дали только на месяц, до 1 октября, т.е. до срока действия удостоверения. \nВо-вторых, предложили путёвку в санаторий в период совпадающим с \"не определённым статусом ребёнка-инвалида\", пришлось отказаться. \nВ третьих, осуществляя переезд в городском транспорте мы не можем пользоваться льготами в этот период, что подтвердил билетный кассир станции Равнополье, Наталья Ивановна, следуя должностной инструкции не выдавшая нам льготный билет по удостоверению, т. к. его действие истекло 1 октября, и она, безусловно, права, возражая на мои слова: - Вы понимаете, у нас удостоверение будет с 1 октября, только оно во МРЭКе выдаётся задним числом, а пока мы находимся на переосвидетельствовании...\"\n\"Даа, понимание к делу не пришьёшь, нужны подтверждающие документы,\" - сказал рядом стоящий человек. \nПоэтому, учитывая несогласованность системы и возникающих проблем связанных с постановлением, предлагаю внести поправки о порядке переосвидетельствования инвалидов во МРЭК более чёткими понятиями. \nВ связи с важностью вопроса об улучшении положения категории граждан имеющих инвалидность, защитой их прав, а также вызванными массовыми недопониманиями и неудобствами для людей имеющих инвалидность, считаю, что нужно поднимать вопросы в Министерстве здравоохранения и в Совете Министров Республики Беларусь об корректировке данных постановлений и изменении некоторых нормативных документов. \nБлагодарю, за возможность высказаться, т. к. считаю, что на данный момент система не досконально урегулирована, и права человека с ограниченными возможностями в период переосвидетельствования полностью не защищены. \nС уважением, Е. Н. Шишло.","fullText":"","textLanguage":"RU","textTranslations":{"TR":"Merhaba. Merhaba. Ben, Elena Nikolaevna Şişlo, 2007 doğumlu engelli bir çocuk yetiştiriyorum, SUZ - 3.\n1 Ekim 2024'te sertifikasının sona erdiği - Mrek'in süresi doldu ve 2 Ekim'den itibaren (engellilerin (hastaların) MREK'E sevk prosedürüne ilişkin talimatlara göre (Belarus Cumhuriyeti Sağlık Bakanlığı'nın 14.09.2023 tarihli 136 sayılı kararnamesine ek olarak, 09.06.2021 tarih ve 77 sayılı kararnameye ek olarak paragraf 9), poliklinik belgelerini MREK'TE yeniden incelenmek üzere gönderecektir. Size hatırlatmama izin vereyim, 9. paragraf şöyle diyor: \"Engelli kişilerin (hastaların) yeniden incelenmesinde, VCC, MREK sonucunun sona ermesinden en geç 14 takvim günü sonra Tıbbi-sosyal incelemeye sevk ediyor.\" Bu bağlamda, Eylül ayında uzmanlara sormaya başladığım bir sorum vardı:\nPeki engelli çocuğum bunca gün içinde, biz yeniden yargılamaya davet edilene kadar hangi durumda olacak?\nKlinikte, bu soruyu doğru cevapla netleştirmeden erken yeniden inceleme için bir başvuru yazmam teklif edildi. Aynı soruyla Sağlık Bakanlığı'ndaki yardım hattını aradım, burada Inn Leonidovna'ya yönlendirildim, bu soruya kesin bir cevap vermedi ve başka bir sorunun cevabını doğruladım, evet, sertifikanın sona erdiği andan itibaren geriye dönük olarak verileceğini doğruladım. Aynı soruyu 4 çocuk kliniğinin başkanı Svetlana Nikolaevna ile tartıştım ve ona Mrek'in baş doktoruna Anna Mikhailovna'ya sordum, dinledikten sonra Mrek'in değerlendirmesinin zamanlamasını netleştirdi (30 güne kadar), erken yeniden inceleme için bir başvuru yazmayı teklif etti ve diğerleri gibi beni ilgilendiren soruma cevap veremedi: \n\"Biz mırıldanmanın yeniden incelenmesini beklerken engelli çocuğum hangi durumda?\" Sağlıklı bir insan statüsünde mi? \nKanser merkezinde Eylül sonu / Ekim başı yapılması planlanan yaklaşan ameliyat nedeniyle, MREK'İ erken değerlendirmeye aktaramıyoruz, bu konuda herkesi bilgilendirdim ve ilgimi çeken soruya cevap ararken, 1 Ekim'deki geçersiz kimlik belgesi sona erdi, burada hemen bir takım sorunlarla karşılaştık:\nİlk olarak, çocuğun yeni sağlık sorunları nedeniyle evde eğitime geçmeye karar verdik. 28 Ağustos 2024'teki klinikte, VKK'DAN evde eğitime ihtiyacı olduğuna dair bir sertifika aldılar, ancak sertifikanın 1 Ekim'e kadar, yani sertifikanın geçerlilik süresine kadar sadece bir ay süreyle verilmesi beni üzdü. \nİkincisi, \"engelli bir çocuğun belirsiz statüsüne\" denk gelen dönemde sanatoryuma bir bilet teklif ettiler, reddetmek zorunda kaldılar. \nÜçüncüsü, şehir içi ulaşımda hareket ederken, Ravnopolye istasyonunun bilet memuru Natalya Ivanovna'nın iş tanımına uyarak bize sertifika için indirimli bilet vermediğini onayladığı bu dönemde faydalardan yararlanamayız, çünkü geçerliliği 1 Ekim'de sona erdi ve sözlerime itiraz etmekte kesinlikle haklı: - Anlıyorsunuz, 1 Ekim'den itibaren bir sertifikamız olacak, sadece bu karanlıkta geriye dönük olarak veriliyor, ancak şimdilik yeniden denetimdeyiz...\"\nYanında duran bir kişi, \"Evet, konuya anlayış getirmeyeceksiniz, destekleyici belgelere ihtiyacınız var\" dedi. \nBu nedenle, sistemin tutarsızlığı ve kararname ile ilgili ortaya çıkan sorunlar göz önüne alındığında, mrek'lerdeki engellilerin yeniden incelenme prosedürünü daha net kavramlarla değiştirmeyi öneriyorum. \nEngelli vatandaşlar kategorisinin durumunun iyileştirilmesi, haklarının korunması ve engelliler için kitlesel yanlış anlaşılmaların ve rahatsızlıkların neden olduğu sorunun önemi nedeniyle, Sağlık Bakanlığı'nda ve Belarus Cumhuriyeti Bakanlar Konseyi'nde bu kararların ayarlanması ve bazı düzenleyici belgelerin değiştirilmesi hakkında soru sorulmasının gerekli olduğuna inanıyorum. \nKonuşma fırsatım için teşekkür ederim, çünkü şu anda sistemin tam olarak çözülmediğine ve yeniden inceleme döneminde engelli bir kişinin haklarının tamamen korunmadığına inanıyorum. \nSaygılarımla, E. N. Şişlo.","EN":"Hello. I, Elena Nikolaevna Shishlo, am raising a disabled child, born in 2007, SUZ - 3.\nOn October 1, 2024, her certificate expired - the MREK expired, and, from October 2 (according to the instructions on the procedure for sending disabled people (patients) to the MREK (paragraph 9 of the addendum to the decree of the Ministry of Health of the Republic Belarus dated 09/14/2023 No.136, to Resolution No. 77 dated 06/09/2021), the polyclinic will send her documents for re-examination to the MREK. Let me remind you, paragraph 9 says: \"During the re-examination of disabled people (patients) The VCC sends a referral for a Medical and social examination no later than 14 calendar days after the expiration of the MREK conclusion.\" In this regard, I had a question that I began to ask the specialists back in September:\nAnd what status will my disabled child be in all these days until we are invited to a re-examination in the MREK?\nTo which, at the clinic, I was offered to write an application for an early re-examination, without clarifying this question with a proper answer. I called the hotline at the Ministry of Health with the same question, where I was redirected to Inna Leonidovna, who did not give an exact answer to this question and confirmed the answer to another question that, yes, the certificate will be issued retroactively from the moment it ends. I discussed the same question with the head of the 4th children's polyclinic Svetlana Nikolaevna, and I also asked the chief physician of the MREK Anna Mikhailovna, after listening, she clarified the terms of consideration by the MREK (up to 30 days), offered to write an application for early re-examination and, like others, could not answer my question: \n\"What is the status of my disabled child while we are waiting for a re-examination in the MREK?\" In the status of a healthy person? \nDue to the upcoming operation at the cancer center, which was planned for the end of September / beginning of October, we cannot postpone the MREC for early consideration, I informed everyone about this, and while I was looking for an answer to my question, the disability certificate ended on October 1, where we immediately faced a number of problems:\nFirstly, due to with new problems with the child's health, we decided to switch to home schooling. On August 28, 2024, the polyclinic took a reference from the VKK that she needed home schooling, but I was upset that the certificate was given only for a month, until October 1, i.e. before the validity period of the certificate.\nSecondly, they offered a ticket to the sanatorium during the period coinciding with the \"undefined status of a disabled child\"I had to give up. \nThirdly, when moving in public transport, we cannot use the benefits during this period, which was confirmed by the ticket cashier of the Ravnopolye station, Natalia Ivanovna, following the job description, who did not issue us a discounted ticket on the certificate, because its validity expired on October 1, and she is certainly right to object to my words: - You understand, we will have a certificate from October 1, only it is issued retroactively in the MREK, but while we are on re-examination...\"\n\"Yeah, you can't sew understanding to the case, you need supporting documents,\" said a man standing next to him. \nTherefore, given the inconsistency of the system and the emerging problems associated with the resolution, I propose to amend the procedure for the re-examination of persons with disabilities in the MREK in clearer terms. \nDue to the importance of improving the situation of the category of citizens with disabilities, protecting their rights, as well as the massive misunderstandings and inconveniences caused to people with disabilities, I believe that it is necessary to raise issues in the Ministry of Health and in the Council of Ministers of the Republic of Belarus about correcting these resolutions and changing some regulatory documents. \nThank you for the opportunity to speak out, because I think that at the moment the system is not thoroughly regulated, and the rights of people with disabilities are not fully protected during the re-examination. \nSincerely, E. 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